The best endorsement of all

If you’re getting as sick as we are of the smug arrogance and phony feelgood tactics of the Springer campaign crowd, this comment we received last night on another piece might be clarifying:

As a former staffer. I can attest to Dr. Gordon boasting credentials that he had no business claiming. For example, he once claimed to be a water expert at a city function. An executive, who I shall not name, very respectfully told him to his face that he was not. I think he was taken back that someone called him on his BS.

Other than that, the guy is okay. The staff knows that he does his political theater in council chambers for the sake of the cameras. It’s not uncommon for him to apologize to staffers when the meeting is over (“it’s just business,” he’ll say). The man does serve a purpose in keeping staff honest, but a community leader he is not. He’s the type of politician that will point at his voting record to prove to folks that he is fighting for them, yet, his “no” votes seldom yield any meaningful alternative solutions

We agree with most of what they’re saying here, but want to add that there hasn’t been anyone on the council within the last 50 years who has ever been what you can call a community leader. So there are no counter examples to point to as having been any better in this regard.

Sad but true. It’s not that kind of town unless you agree with everyone, in which case being a “leader” is just rhetorical. Gordon’s big problem is that he’s always been saddled with having to work with a group of mostly stubborn and credulous booster types who don’t know any better and probably never will. And that’s giving them more credit than they perhaps deserve. Gordon’s never had an ally up there to work with and it’s not his fault.

But he asks good questions and is generally anti-development. That’s good enough. 

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38 responses to “The best endorsement of all

  1. chad

    And 16% of eligible voters bother to vote. We deserve what we get.

    • semichorus

      I’m wondering who they are nowadays, too.

      Combined with our anti-democratic mail ballot, such a low turnout encourages the formation of small blocks of vote gathering and round robin kind of activities. Kitchen table efforts to get votes going in a certain way and then make sure they hit the mail box.

      Gordon swept to victory four years ago with no problem. Unless there’s a completely different voting pool going on in the Burbank of 2017, there’s something a little fishy now about it all.

      Or, we’re seeing the power of a Rogers-inspired whispering campaign against those “creepy” council critics? You know, the ones who “scare” the rest of our residents…

      • Just for the fun of it

        Just a wild guess, but most of the voting energy is with the Hillary voters that feel cheated.

        It’s possible that enough voters who really don’t know who Gordon is are buying the Springer propaganda because it vibes like Hillary. It gives them a chance to re-affirm whatever it is they feel they need to re-affirm after the loss in November.

        Like I said, It’s just a guess.

        • semichorus

          I agree with this, and it’s been a deliberate strategy.

          A dumb and dishonest one (Gordon was NOT a Trump supporter), but look where this is.

  2. Anonymous

    Staff hates Dr Gordon. I’ve had them ask me how can you support him? The “Burbank City Hall” community the ones that live and work in the City are all anybody but Gordon.

    • Anonymous

      ” Anonymous
      March 31, 2017 at 6:43 am
      Staff hates Dr Gordon. I’ve had them ask me how can you support him? The “Burbank City Hall” community the ones that live and work in the City are all anybody but Gordon.”

      Says the third party person hiding behind an “anonymous”. Yep, smells like a Springer misguided devotee.

    • semichorus

      Not sure about this.

      You know it’s funny. When McConkey ran for re-election in 1999, the Burbank Management Association actually ENDORSED him.

      Something that put the lie to the idea that he was a loose cannon antagonist. Rogers btw ignored the endorsement news, and acted like it never happened. It didn’t fit the script.

      • Anonymous

        Right. Not saying springer per se, saying one her blind lemming followers who think they are doing the right thing by freelancing with her precepts to do the smearing….there’s a huge crumb trail of them that leads back to springer.

    • Anonymous

      ” Anonymous
      March 31, 2017 at 6:43 am
      Staff hates Dr Gordon. I’ve had them ask me how can you support him?”

      “I’ve had them ask me….” What a bizarre phrase. Why not, they’ve asked….or, I’ve been asked. This sounds like a person in need of thinking they are in control of something, when in reality they control nothing, not even themselves. Will, is this you? IMHO!

  3. Who cares if staff likes Dr. Gordon or not? He wasn’t elected by them. He’s looking out for residents and asks relevant questions and YES he does this for the cameras for a reason – people need to know what’s going on. One man’s grandstanding is another man’s rhetorical question.

    • Betty

      I never see Gordon grandstanding but I sure see Rogers grandstand all the time. I really love how employees in Burbank think they should not only be overpaid but also think bosses should obey them. Just look at the over paid city attorney.

      • semichorus

        Oh, Gordon grandstands.

        The difference is that — unlike Rogers — he saves it for going after the big guys. Not some little schmo (in his view) that he can ridicule. And Gordon’s grandstanding involves policy issues and decisions. Not claims about personality foibles.

    • Bryan C

      I get the feeling everyplace that there are Springer workers, i’m guessing paid, spreading all kinds of fake stories I think this all city employees hate Gordon is a fake news story from Springer workers. I know some city employees that are voting 4 Gordon.

      • semichorus

        Like I said, Ted was endorsed by city management against Laurell.

        Rogers likes to compare the Gordon “fanboys” to the “McConkeyistas.” So there you go.

        (I suspect that some staff members see Springer as a big yenta type who will try to come in and take over. She’ll be down there hanging around all day like Rogers. They’d rather have Gordon. There’s also less work there with him than breaking in a newbie.)

  4. Matt

    Sorry but the league of conservation voters have their heads up some corporations ass from the look of the Springer flyer.

    • semichorus

      Rogers would be the first one in town to ridicule Dr. Gordon if somehow David and his fans started trumpeting an endorsement from, say, the Sierra Club.

      It would be correctly seen as ludicrously off topic. Or artificially feelgood and evasive in nature. As is this Springer boast.

    • Anonymous

      Sure…..

  5. Another anonymous

    The “staff” orchestrated a crime wherein $50K in tax money was paid to the Yes On B campaign. They would prefer a council that doesn’t ask too many questions. Nothing to see here folks.

  6. Incognito

    Springer is a BIG hypocrite, she sends others to do her dirty work at every level, so that.. little sweet, green demeanor means nothing… DO NOT be fooled, I have seen her people in action on many occasions and it’s pathetic. One of her guys was yelling at Gordon at the meet & greet last night about his signs blocking Sharon’s and flashing a blurred photo, the same guy put his teenage daughter to speak with Guillen and this jerk just sat in the chair staring Guillen down and listening. Why would anyone put their kid in such a bad predicament.?? I get teaching them politics, however, this is teaching them how to be bullys and ill informed.

    Just like Rogers spewing that vulgar comment to someone on Tuesday, “tell your daughter, there are a lot of us mean/ugly people out there”? ,

    How low can someone go to use their kids…….

    Who cares what Staff thinks, the majority DO NOT even live in Burbank and have an unrealistic view of life, Not every gets pay raises in the real working world when the budget does NOT permit, nor are they automatically given. Your boss(es) pay you to be effective and get the job done.

    We will be in BIG Trouble if we elect BF & SS.

    • Al in SoCal

      and you think that Sharon told him to send his daughter? One supporter’s bad judgement shouldn’t reflect poorly on the candidate. I think she has better things to do than worry about Guillen’s seat occupancy during the meet & greet.

  7. Irwin Fletcher

    I’m baffled by this simplistic Hillary vs. Trump comparison. Gordon is nothing like Trump- Gordon is well spoken, polite, thoughtful, unselfish, etc. The only thing Springer has in common with Hillary is genitalia- apart from that her career and accomplishments don’t hold a candle to Hillary’s. Are there democrats dense enough to buy this cheap stunt? How terrifying.

    • semichorus

      Oh yeah. Read that Facebook page. She’s the local deliverance.

      Rogers and Co would love to have Burbank people think that Gordon is a big Trump guy. That’s why the constant “Trumpian” referencing from Rogers. But he’s not. Nor I believe are his despised “the Berlins.”

    • Anonymous

      Gordon is abusive and obnoxious.

      • Irwin Fletcher

        List your verifiable examples please.

      • Al in SoCal

        Agreed: obnoxious. Irwin – do you not hear him interrupt staff, speakers, etc with loud sighs, numerous clearing of his throat episodes, and basically dirty looks and faces? As for the Berlins they were / are snobbish and came off as very entitled – apparently not entitled to sit on the council.

        • semichorus

          It’s TALAMANTES who does that!

          Not Gordon. He does it every time Gordon starts speaking. I love the idea too that it’s “the Berlins” who thought they were “entitled.” Let’s ignore the corporate class around here why don’t we. Yeah, they’re just regular fellows….

          Jesus Christ. This town’s nuts. The “liberals” are just as bad as the conservative crazies.

        • Irwin Fletcher

          Really Al? He’s probably just trying to keep his rage from vomiting out all over the dais. None of that holds a candle to Rogers’ flagrant belligerent mush-mouth rants, or his online behavior, or the Talamantes/Frutos “everything is awesome” duo. Dirty looks- whole crap we need to vote that shit out right away. Seriously though, Gordon is about as deadpan as it gets.

  8. Don

    Irwin hold on to your seat because if you disagree with these liberals on anything, anything at all you will be called toxic and a Trump. You are just seeing exactly how hate filled and toxic these people really are and that is not fake or alternative news it is just a fact. The more you watch them, hear them and see them the more it becomes so obvious there can be no denial of it.

  9. Marie

    My neighbor who works at a school told me she can not stand Springer. She said Springer invades the school and demands things be her way. Springer is queen of the garden and the kitchen she says and she gets her way because she shouts at the employees to get it.

    • semichorus

      I’m only half joking when I call her a yenta. But I suspect it’s true.

      If elected I have no doubt she’ll be down at city hall constantly looking in and giving staff members her two cents about every written-down detail in town. Every architectural plan, every development proposal. Every tree planting.

      They’ll be trying to beat each other locking the doors whenever they see her coming down the hall. Gordon on the other hand has an outside life.

  10. Al in SoCal

    Community Leader – I’ll give you one. Dave Golonski. Now before everyone faints at the thought & runs for their smelling salts, you can be a Community Leader and disagree with EVERYTHING they did. I, however, liked his plans & policies.

    If he were not a Community Leader then there would be little residual effect from his time on the council. It’s proved over & over again on this board and other places that the effect he had on Burbank is lasting. Yes, yes, I believe we all know what most of you think of what his effect was – no need in delving into the details.

  11. Anonymous

    If you believe what Sharon Springer tells you, she is an environmentalist — a promoter of bike paths, recycling and community gardens. But her City Council campaign in being funded by a pro-development political group that’s been at the center of efforts to roll back regulations on big polluters for the last decade. Strange bedfellows indeed. According to public records, BizFed, a self-described “pro-business” PAC, which helped defeat a ballot measure aimed at curbing development in Los Angeles last month — and whose efforts to block clean air and water protections have been widely-criticized by environmental groups — gave Sharon Springer’s campaign the maximum donation allowed by law on March 15th.

    https://burbankviewpoints.com/2017/04/03/green-candidate-sharon-springer-funded-by-anti-environment-pac/

  12. Anonymous

    If you believe what Sharon Springer tells you, she is an environmentalist — a promoter of bike paths, recycling and community gardens. But her City Council campaign in being funded by a pro-development political group that’s been at the center of efforts to roll back regulations on big polluters for the last decade. Strange bedfellows indeed. According to public records, BizFed, a self-described “pro-business” PAC, which helped defeat a ballot measure aimed at curbing development in Los Angeles last month — and whose efforts to block clean air and water protections have been widely-criticized by environmental groups — gave Sharon Springer’s campaign the maximum donation allowed by law on March 15th.

    https://burbankviewpoints.com/2017/04/03/green-candidate-sharon-springer-funded-by-anti-environment-pac/

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